Announcement Further Improvements to the shared hosting platform.

Matt

Owner
For the past 18 months, I've been routing all outbound email from the shared hosting servers via Sendgrid, and their SMTP relay service. This has enabled the old IP's to remain clean, and prevent them from being black listed by the RBL lists.

I've just signed up for a new service, provided by Mailchannels. This is specifically aimed at ensuring the best delivery rate, along with the ability for me to identify abusers / spammers / compromised accounts etc, and maintain the integrity of the hosting platform.

1513357535816.png

I've initially switched CP1 over to this new service, and I've been monitoring and setting it up over the last 24 hours. So far, VERY impressed!

I've configured all the accounts with the correct SPF value where I have access to the DNS servers, so all the correct routing and authentication for the domains is in place.

This is an additional cost to myself, and it's not a cost I'm passing over to you, the customers. Hopefully, you will see a benefit from this, as email deliver-ability will be pretty consistent now.

The only issue I've found has been where in XF, you have a bounced email address configured, or the sending address ISN'T on the same domain (such as a hotmail or gmail account). The way the address is formatted causes the mail to be blocked by the receiving party (and would have been previously),but I wasn't aware of this until I had access to the additional reporting by this new service. I've fixed the XF installs that were set up like this.

I'm going to run with the single server on this for a month, and all being well, will migrate everything else over in the new year.

Any questions or issues, please let me know.
 

viper357

Hosting Customer
Sounds good, I assume this won't have any effect on those of us that use Amazon SES to send our emails?
 

Pete

Hosting Customer
If we are using Amazon SES, would you advise we stay with it or switch back to default, ie Is this likely to be better than using Amazon SES - I sometimes get bounces from btinernet an AOL with SES. (Also have a small wordpress site using Pepipost SMTP which I'm not completely convinced by.
 

Matt

Owner
If we are using Amazon SES, would you advise we stay with it or switch back to default, ie Is this likely to be better than using Amazon SES - I sometimes get bounces from btinernet an AOL with SES. (Also have a small wordpress site using Pepipost SMTP which I'm not completely convinced by.
I use SES here, and have no issues with it at all. I would personally recommend sticking with SES. As for Pepipost, get rid.
 

Matt

Owner
CP2 has been put back to Sendgrid. There are a lot of issues with forums incorrectly configured and sending from email addresses not on the actual domain itself, which get's automatically blocked because it fails the SPF check.

I'm possibly going to route everything back to Sendgrid based on this, will decide next week.
 

Pete

Hosting Customer
As for Pepipost, get rid.
Any specific reason?

As you know I'm trying mailgun on another forum - I have had a couple of small problems with email recently

SES sometimes gets bounced by BT internet
mailgun gets some bounces every now and again when a shared IP gets blacklisted (then they switch it over to another)

I looked into dedicated IP for SMTP, and it seems both SES and mailgun do not recommend it for "small" amounts of email, ie best for 5000+ per day (my daily send is about 100 at most)

Sop also something I can't justify expense of.
 

Alfa2

Managed Customer
I looked into dedicated IP for SMTP, and it seems both SES and mailgun do not recommend it for "small" amounts of email, ie best for 5000+ per day (my daily send is about 100 at most)
Without a dedicated IP you cannot join feedback loops. Which means that Yahoo is likely to greylist your email, which means you are essentially blacklisted. Same goes for a few other email domains. Im not sure about BT.
 

Pete

Hosting Customer
Without a dedicated IP you cannot join feedback loops. Which means that Yahoo is likely to greylist your email, which means you are essentially blacklisted. Same goes for a few other email domains. Im not sure about BT.
This is what I thought, but then small forums like mine cannot afford ¢59 a month (mailgun) or $24 a month even (SES),especially when advised not to by those very companies:



AHA unfurling on 2.1 nice!
 

Alfa2

Managed Customer
This is what I thought, but then small forums like mine cannot afford ¢59 a month (mailgun) or $24 a month even (SES),especially when advised not to by those very companies:
For amazon the description is:
you should send several hundred emails within a 24-hour period at least once per month.
The minimum 5000 per day suggested by mailgun makes no sense whatsoever.
 

Pete

Hosting Customer
For amazon the description is:
But they also say:

BenefitShared IP addressesDedicated IP addresses
Good for high-volume sendersYesYes
Good for low-volume sendersYesNo


This is what I get in the bounces from bt (this is on my WP WooCommerce store, but it was often same issue with Xenforo). Seems to be due to the Amazon IP, nothing to do with the sending domain on CP1

Code:
An error occurred while trying to deliver the mail to the following recipients:
[email protected]: dsn; a27-116.smtp-out.us-west-2.amazonses.com
Action: failed
Final-Recipient: rfc822; [email protected]
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 4.4.7 Message expired: unable to deliver in 1440 minutes.<421 Policy (1.2.6.3) Too much SPAM received from 54.240.27.116 on 2019/01/19 14:03:49 GMT, if you share a mail server consider moving to a dedicated mail server not sending SPAM. Guide for bulk senders www.bt.com/bulksender>
Status: 4.4.7
From: Taming The Saxophone <[email protected]>
Subject: Your Taming The Saxophone order from January 17, 2019 is complete
Date: 18 January 2019 at 13:17:23 GMT
To: [email protected]
 

Pete

Hosting Customer
As for Pepipost, get rid.
Ha, just got a newsletter/marketing email from Pepipost was marked with a spambar ++++ so seems they can't even configure their own sending account properly.
There are a lot of issues with forums incorrectly configured and sending from email addresses not on the actual domain itself
Presumably it's OK for me to be doing what mailgun recommend, ie send from a subdomain ? If not I will switch the mailgun domain to the root domain
 

Matt

Owner
Presumably it's OK for me to be doing what mailgun recommend, ie send from a subdomain ? If not I will switch the mailgun domain to the root domain
Yeah, the issue is when people try sending the email from a different TLD, such as gmail.com or outlook.com
 
Top